Friday, February 3, 2012

Bee pollen and honey?

I'm searching for a good source for 100% certified organic wildcrafted bee pollen and honey. Most importantly, I want absolutely no harm or exploitation done to the bee's themselves; thats my first priority.



Any help would be terrrific.

Bee pollen and honey?
I agree with the others. I appreciate very much that you want to try to prevent the harming of bees for your taste buds, but bee harvesting is inherently exploitative. Most vegans who choose to abstain from honey (including myself) use agave nectar as a substitute. It has roughly the same taste, color, and consistency as honey, but is 100% natural and cruelty-free. Check it out, if you like it, your worries are solved.
Reply:thats impossible



Taking honey is like taking thier house and breeding feed.



You can buy honey where the queens are not killed and the workers are not fumigated. this will not be a commercial honey and you'd need to find a local hobby farm, small holding or private keeper.



But as for "absolutely no harm or exploitation" you can't do that. The very act of taking the honey is exploitation



Not saying its right or wrong, just saying its impossible and as your need to avoid harm and exploitation are your first priority, your search is likely to be over.
Reply:Like so many others have said, you cannot get the honey without hurting the bee
Reply:Organic, wildcrafted bee pollen and honey is possible, but seeing as the bees make the honey for themselves, there really isn't "cruelty free" honey. It's like the dairy industry.



The restauraunt I work at buys honey from the same organic farmer we get our produce from. They also carry bee pollen but we don't use it in house. Not sure where you are but it's in the Phoenix, AZ metro area.
Reply:Eating honey is no more exploitive to bees than eating produce. The beekeepers use the honey the bees make. The beekeepers rent their hives to farmers to pollinate their crops. Both exploit the bees equally.



All the vegans here will deny the pollination is exploitive to defend their eating the produce. We've been there before. They'll tell you not to eat the honey while they eat the produce.



Eat both or eat neither.
Reply:Sorry but I don't think you'll find one. Bees produce honey for themselves, not for us. Any company selling honey is using these bees which, in my opinion anyway, is exploiting them. I use maple syrup instead and have been told to use molasses which I'm going to try too. If you still want to eat honey then I'm sure there are some that cause less harm than others... it's great that you're even thinking about the bees welfare so good for you!
Reply:simply put.. first of all honey is not vegetarian.
Reply:Are you serious? Why waste your money on organic food and on worrying about some stupid bees? Just get some honey from the grocery store.


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